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Administrative Information

Scope and Content Note

Biographical Information

Lineage

Selected Search Terms

Partial Interview Transcript



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New Land New Lives Oral History Collection
Lempi Suaminen Forman
A Guide to Her Oral History Interview

Administrative Information

Creator: Forman, Lempi Suaminen

Collection Nr: t020

File Content:

2 file folders
0 photographs
1 sound cassette
1 compact disc

 
Processing Information:

The interview was conducted using a cassette recorder. A research copy was also prepared from the original. To further preserve the content of the interview, it is now being transferred to compact disc. We deliberately did not transcribe the entire interview because we want the researchers to listen to the interviewee's own voice. The transcription index highlights important aspects of the interview and the tape counter numbers noted on the Partial Interview Transcription are meant as approximate finding guides and refer to the location of a subject on the cassette/CD.

Interviewed by Donna Mallonee
Transcribed by Mary Sue Gee, Julie Peterson and Becky Husby
Encoded by Kerstin Ringdahl & Amity Smetzler
Recording Quality: Good

Restrictions:

The collection is available for research.

Preferred Citation:

[Collection Number, Collection Title]
New Land New Lives Oral History Collection
Scandinavian Immigrant Experience Collection
Robert A.L. Mortvedt Library
Pacific Lutheran University
Tacoma, WA 98447


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Scope and Content Note

This interview was conducted with Lempi Forman in Portland, OR. It contains information on her family background, life in Finland during World War II, emigration, and return trips to Finland. The interview was conducted in English.


Biographical Information

Lempi Forman was born on a small island close to Turku in southwest Finland. Her father was a farmer/fisherman, and there were five girls and five boys in the family. Growing up, Lempi experienced many hard times due to World War II. Money was scarce, and she says people did not know what to do or how to run their country once the war ended. In the fall of 1948, Lempi moved to Stockholm, where she stayed for half a year, and then immigrated to New York in May 1949. She stayed in New York for five weeks and worked in a tailor shop. On July 4, 1949, she went to Portland, OR, where she had two cousins. Lempi met her husband on an ocean ship where she later worked and had one son, David. Every time she visits Finland, she returns to her home place, but would never want to live there again.


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Lineage:

Full Name: Lempi Suaminen Forman
Maiden Name: Lempi Suaminen
Father: Frans Suaminen
Mother: Wilma Aleksandra...........?
Paternal Grandfather: Johe? Petersson
Maternal Grandfather: Gustav Adolf ...........?
Brothers and Sisters: There were 10 children altogether, five boys and five girls.
Frans Erki? Suaminen
Marte Maria Wilhelmina Suaminen
Kaski? Suaminen
Willia Emelia? Suaminen
Margret? Suaminen
Arne Suaminen
Adolf Suaminen
Ila Suaminen
Spouse: ? Forman
Children: David Forman

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Selected Search Terms

This collection is indexed under the following headings

Personal Names
Forman, Lempi
Suaminen, Frans
Aleksandra, Wilma
Adolf, Gustaf
Petersson, John
Suaminen, Frans Erki
Suaminen, Marte Maria Wilhelmina
Suaminen, Kaski
Suaminen, Willia Emelia
Suaminen, Margret
Suaminen, Arne
Suaminen, Adolf
Suaminen, Ila
Forman, ? (husband)
Forman, David

Family Names
Forman family
Suaminen family
Petersson family

Geographical Names
Turku, Finland
Portland, Oregon

Subjects
Family -- Finland
Emigration and immigration -- Finland
World War -- 1939-1945
Finland -- Social conditions -- 1945-
Christmas -- Finland
Finland -- Economic conditions
Winter War -- Finland -- 1939-1940

Occupations
Family farm -- Finland
Tailor shop -- Clerks

Genre/Form
Oral history

Institution
Pacific Lutheran University. Scandinavian Immigrant Experience Collection

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Partial Interview Transcription

The partial interview transcription highlights important aspects of the interview. Numbers on the left may be used as guides to important subjects. Two numbers separated by a slash indicate that the first number is for cassette and the second for CD.

005/01 FAMILY BACKGROUND: Her full name in Finland was Lempi ……..? Suaminen. Her parents were Wilma Helie? Aleksandra ……?, and her father was Frans…………..? Suaminen.

018 There were five girls and five boys in the family. Frans Erki?, Marte Maria Wilhelmina, Lempi (Marte and Lempi were twins), Kaski?….? (a boy), another boy, Willia? Emilie?, Margret?…….?, Arne, Adolf, and Ila?.

051 Mother's father was Gustaf Adolf and father's father was Johe? Petersson. Her father changed the name Petersson to Suaminen because he didn't like Swedish last names. Sweden was in control of Finland for over 300 years. When Finland became independent of the Swedish crown, many people changed their names.

84 EMIGRATION: She came alone on July 4, 1949 to Portland, Oregon. "I just like to run away from home…" She had two cousins here that she'd never met. But they sent her a ticket and invited her to come. "I wasn't too sure. I thought if I liked it I would stay; if I don't like it or learn the language, I can always come back." It was exciting to come to a new country.

113/02 TRIP: She went from Turku in the fall of 1948 to Stockholm where she stayed half a year. Then she took a ship from Göteburg, Sweden to New York in May 1949. She stayed in New York for five weeks. She had no problems with the language. Her profession was tailoring, and she says her boss, "he likes me very much because I can't talk-I just worked." As soon as she learned English, she asked her boss for a raise and the he "didn't like her anymore."

142 SETTLING IN AND WORK: She was happy to be here; there were so many things to see and so much food to eat. Finland was very poor after the war. When she was young, times were poor. Finland had many poor people, a few very rich, and no middle class. She happened to be in the poor class on a small island close to Turku. She went to school on the island and when young, she understood both Swedish and Finnish.

180 The first time she saw a doctor was when she was 16, 17 and went out to work. Illness were treated at home by her mother who used natural herbs. Father went to a hospital for an ear operation when Lempi was eight years old. He was a farmer/fisherman; mother helped with the fishing.

200/03 CHRISTMAS: Presents were opened in the evening, but otherwise it was similar to American traditions. The children got a small box of raisins each. The year Father was in the hospital they had no money; then there were no raisins at Christmas. But Lempi's mother promised she get them as soon as possible. In June, the children received the Christmas raisins; Lempi ate one raisin a week. If mother cried because of the hard times, Lempi "always gave her one raisin to make her feel better."

243 Special food at Christmas was lutfisk and …..? There might be ham but no beef. The church was a Lutheran state church. There were other small religious groups that didn't pay state taxes because they didn't belong to the state church.

265/04 RETURN TRIPS TO FINLAND: She has returned to her home place every time she visited Finland. "It's nice to see, but I never want to live there. It's so far away and you can't go there without a boat." When she was young, they moved from one island to another as father searched for more work. She was three when they left her grandpa's house where she was born. She has two sisters here besides cousins. Most of her relatives live in Turku, but one brother lives on an island.

290 Finland was the only country after WWII to pay her war debts; even though times were hard, payments were made in full. Lempi is very proud of Finland for that. During the "Winter War" of 1939-1940, the weather was unusually cold. When the family went fishing, they wore white pillow cases or sheets as camouflage over their regular clothes, so the Russians couldn't see them. Lempi and her brother went fishing one time and forgot "the white clothes that looked like snow" and they were spotted by the Russians. The Russians shot at them, but the kids took refuge on a small island until the soldiers left. Afterwards, they picked up the bullets, one of which Lempi kept as a souvenir

330 The war ended in March and Finland lost land. People weren't happy because they didn't know how to run the country. "We didn't know what to do. We didn't have to do anything; we just lived from day to day. When the war ended, we had to think…" During the war, she was like a traffic police officer; she helped people get n shelters during bombing raids. "But then when the war ended we did not know what to do. We absolutely were lost. It was so strange, because the war was for six years." Five brothers fought in the war, one came home early to serve as a fireman. Mother was happy to get her sons back. But the others didn't know what to do besides smoking and drinking.

362 Her cousins sent clothes, shoes, and food during the war.

373/05 Mother worked hard when the family was young. The father was sickly and she cared for him, the house, and the kids besides trying to fish and work outside sometimes. He was in the hospital more than once. He had an accident working on the highway. Mother managed but suffered a lot. She had a good time after the war when she was older and had grandchildren.

396 TRADITION: Lempi's son is not satisfied with a box of raisins for Christmas, so that changed. She has kept up with the foods like rice pudding and lutfisk at Christmas. She serves the rice with a sweet fruit soup over it. She cooks the rice with a stick of cinnamon in it, and whoever gets the cinnamon stick has luck for the whole year.

Lempi still speaks Finnish with her sisters and her son, David. He knows both Finnish and Norwegian because his dad spoke Norwegian with him. She met her husband on an ocean ship where she worked. She's been to Puerto Rico and South America. "He didn't know any English; I didn't know any Norwegian. So we had two dictionaries to work on it."

435 Lempi recites a Finnish children's evening prayer which she used when she was little.


Track 6: Information that Lempi told Donna Mallonee right when she was leaving, concerning Lempi's dialect and relationship between Swedes and the Finns.


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